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CryptoPunks的狂热收藏家如何看 NFT 的价值?

这是loopify于2021年2月对匿名加密艺术收藏“Mr.703”的采访。

703先生是一位匿名收藏家。2017年,他拥有730多个加密朋克。他声称这些加密朋克是免费获得的(汽油费除外)。目前,只有10000名加密朋克。在今年2月接受采访时,703先生剩下549名加密朋克,占总供应量的5%以上。如果不是开发者的钱包,他也是当时最大的加密朋克个人持有者。

链闻注:截止链闻在 2021 年 8 月发表该采访的中文版本时,Mr.703 的账户 中尚有 175 个 CryptoPunks,其中包含大量稀缺品种。据 Larva Labs 网站统计,这个账户先后出售过 344 个 CryptoPunks,买入过 34 个 CryptoPunks。

这是一次独特的采访,因为703先生要求验证区块链上的消息,因此请注意验证方法附在以下段落中;

我们使用;在这次采访中,;公钥密码术。在这样的系统中,任何人都可以使用预期收件人的公钥对消息进行签名,但加密的消息只能使用收件人的私钥进行解密。您可以自己验证消息。

CryptoPunks的狂热收藏家如何看 NFT 的价值? 2021年2月;幼虫实验室;703先生个人资料

1 | 2017年,幼虫实验室创造了加密朋克,是什么促使你拥有这么多加密朋克?

703先生:2017年,我读到在比特币区块链上有一个名为“稀有Pepes”的项目。在那个时候,我第一次了解到这个新事物,现在被称为“NFT”:一个社区驱动的卡片交易游戏。有人把论坛上的一个笑话变成了现实。和4chan的许多东西一样,它非常具有创新性,但在社会上是完全不可接受的。

当幼虫实验室推出cryptopunks时,我看到了它的精髓:创新,将8位风格的像素美学与一流技术相结合,非常有趣。

当时,加密朋克基本上是免费的。我得到了一个又一个,特别是关注稀有属性。只要市场上有一个,我就不断地掏钱,最终得到了一个惊人的收藏,不仅是指规模,还包括稀有的加密朋克。

验证信息-

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “1 | When LarvaLabs created CryptoPunks, what made you claim so many Punks?\n\nI got introduced to – what is now called NFTs – when I read about a project on the Bitcoin blockchain called Rare Pepes in 2017: a community driven card trading game where someone took a 4chan joke to the next level. As so many things 4chan it was extremely innovative yet socially totally unacceptable. When LarvaLabs introduced CryptoPunks I saw it for what it was: innovative, combining 8 bit aesthetics with top notch technology, fun. The punks being essentially free at the time, I claimed one after another, making sure I focused on rare attributes as far as they where still available and ended up with a very respectable collection not only in size but in terms of rarity of punks. “,

“sig”: “0x1cc4741c543db7ff71db04c6d3c7d634462a204928ff212a052a127d50d0735a688cab0c23aae1c9cb7666ac3a8d318223a8d68f19339b5eeeec23b5ca3a6bdd1c”,

  “version”: “2”

}

2 |我们都发现你最近又回到了这个钱包。自从你买了cryptopunks后,你一直在跟踪他们的价格吗?

703先生:不,我没有跟踪这些价格。我收集了这些加密朋克,欣赏它们,打印它们,安装它们,然后把它们放在我拥有的其他艺术作品旁边。我偶然发现有人想要一些我拥有的密码朋克,价格似乎很高。

直到我以低于市场价值的价格出售了一些加密朋克,购买出价开始流入我的账户,我才意识到我所持有的宝藏的真正价值。

几小时后,出价达到75万美元。我谨慎地联系了社区,得知我的收藏价值数百万美元。我完全震惊了!我想打电话给discord服务器:这是找到同行并了解估值的最佳地方。

验证信息-

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “1 | When LarvaLabs created CryptoPunks, what made you claim so many Punks?\n\n2 | You recently returned to this wallet, have you been keeping track of the price of CryptoPunks ever since you bought them?\n\nNo – I have not actually. I collected the punks, admired them, printed one out to have it framed and put it next to other artworks I own as a conversation piece. Being totally oblivious I found out by accident that I had some, what seemed high, bids on my punks. The true magnitude of what a treasure I have been sitting on dawned on me only when bids started to flood my account after selling some punks for what turned out to be way under market value. Bids hit $750’000 within a few hours. I discreetly reached out to the community and learned that my collection is worth millions. Imagine the shock! Shoutout to the LarvaLabs Discord server: best place to rub shoulders and get an understanding of valuations etc.”,

“sig”: “0x1017f78428792f11114625908d2374147e9016307a81a58e690c6058344c732970ffe45984d5872e09c5b3b835f8f337f667bfdd6b2d0b15d82912e784a8dbcb1b”,

  “version”: “2”

}

3 |你为什么不出售加密朋克来换取数百万美元?

703先生:早在2011年,我以每辆16美元的价格买了一辆2000美元的比特币,一年后卖掉了它,用这笔钱付了房租。这些比特币如今价值400万美元,我再也不会犯这样的错误了。

NFT仍处于早期阶段,区块链也处于早期阶段。我们认为机会是巨大的,因为现实世界的资产泡沫将流入我们的投资领域。代表当前大趋势的趋势,目前1万亿美元的总市值只是一小部分。仅世界上所有黄金的价值就是其价值的10倍。我们的游戏名为“hodl”。

话虽如此,我们谈论的是一笔可以改变我和我家人生活的财富。这意味着将我的一些加密朋克卖给比我实力更强的大人物是一个现实的选择,这有利于生态系统,符合另一个区块链格言:当你享受100倍的收入时,至少要卖掉一些。对于加密朋克来说,没有人比我更感兴趣。除了三个外星人。但我的利益取决于不断上涨的价格、更广阔的市场和资本领袖的参与。在不久的将来,我们将在博物馆和拍卖行看到这些加密朋克。此外,我有一份好工作,没有债务。

为什么要以低价出售这些财富?

验证信息-

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “3 | Whats stopping you from dumping your Punks for millions now?\n\nBack in 2011 I bought $2000 worth of bitcoin at round $16 and SOLd a year later to use the money for rent. Those would have been worth $4 Million today and I will never make this mistake again. NFTs are early days, hell blockchain is early days. We think it is huge due to our bubbles that play back to us what we put into them, but $1 trillion combined market cap is a small percentage of where this will go. The value of all the gold in the world alone is 10x that. The name of the game is HODL. “,

“sig”: “0xc5b1360055c5ba55fcafec7b252150daf008d94b21f562d2ad5674917452eaf3589a67fbabe97ac893cb87d85b8ea1577fec6386e0e23ff39c2a564e14ccaa8c1c”,

  “version”: “2”

}

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “That being said, we are talking life changing wealth for me and my family. This means, selling a portion of my punks to stronger hands than me will be the realistic option, good for the ecosystem and in line with another blockchain maxim of mine: when you are sitting on 100x gains sell at least some. No individual has a bigger stake in this than me. Except maybe the three alien guy. But my interest lies in rising prices, a broader market and strong hodl hands. We will see these in museums and auction houses in the not too distant future. In addition I have a good job and am debt free. Why dump this treasure?”,

“sig”: “0xc3afc662badb8201a94ebcd9b02ea85434bc0426b579f0fa75afec9df0f614d63819290ffd925376c28888163f734299033331e35bfa8c69712d546207f1638f1c”,

  “version”: “2”

}

4 |您认为NFT在未来五年将实现什么目标?

703先生:看到重量级艺术家在区块链上发布他们的作品,我不会感到惊讶。NFT将在苏富比和佳士得拍卖。NFT将驻扎在主要的画廊和博物馆。这一预测是显而易见的。

在此之前,大多数机构可能会嘲笑它是一种时尚,而不是一门真正的艺术。与马蒂斯、毕加索和雷诺阿的早期经历相似。只有像阿尔伯特·巴恩斯这样有鉴赏力的收藏家才能理解——你不能指望每个人都有这样的眼光。要五年还是十年?短期预测几乎是不可能的——从长远来看,这一点非常清楚。

验证信息-

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “4 | In the next 5 years, where do you see NFTs going?\n\nIt would not surprise me to see major artists releasing work on the blockchain. NFTs in Sotheby’s and Christi’s. Major galleries and museums. That is a fairly easy prediction. Before that the majority of the establishment is probably going to deride it as a fad, not real art. Similar to what has been said about Matisse, Picasso and Renoir in their – early – time. You have to be an Albert Barnes to get it – cannot expect that from everybody. Will it be 5 or 10 years? Short term predictions are near impossible – long term the view is clear.”,

“sig”: “0xe6d153ceda376a36a5e66d235670c4501b8bb08bede638df27bb78397565562a4c5263bf00cb14c3683088f9489c453f0661e8f3dabf0f40238901fbde573e4a1c”,

  “version”: “2”

}

CryptoPunks的狂热收藏家如何看 NFT 的价值?1

5 | NFT今年刚刚开始爆发。我们看到许多有影响力的人进入了NFT领域。因为加密朋克是原创的,你认为人们会继续投资它们吗?

703先生:在我了解实际开发进度的短时间内,我似乎看到一些相对较大的基金投资于加密朋克和其他NFT项目。Cryptopunks作为第一个NFT项目,具有独特的历史地位。我认为这就是Flamingo Dao所说的“可追溯性是有价值的”。这是一个非常简单的概念:谁是第一个?谁是第一个独自飞越大西洋的人?

就这样-第二个是谁?没人在乎。我敢肯定,第二个独自飞越大西洋的人几乎和第一个独自飞越大西洋的人查尔斯·林德伯格一样登上了新闻头条,但时间侵蚀了这一点,最后第一个留在了人们的记忆中。你可以找出谁是第三个登上月球或珠穆朗玛峰的人,但这类事情的首脑是极其重要的。在艺术中,这反映在价格上,NFT也是如此。

验证信息-

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “4 | In the next 5 years, where do you see NFTs going?\n\nIt would not surprise me to see major artists releasing work on the blockchain. NFTs in Sotheby’s and Christi’s. Major galleries and museums. That is a fairly easy prediction. Before that the majority of the establishment is probably going to deride it as a fad, not real art. Similar to what has been said about Matisse, Picasso and Renoir in their – early – time. You have to be an Albert Barnes to get it – cannot expect that from everybody. Will it be 5 or 10 years? Short term predictions are near impossible – long term the view is clear.”,

“sig”: “0xe6d153ceda376a36a5e66d235670c4501b8bb08bede638df27bb78397565562a4c5263bf00cb14c3683088f9489c453f0661e8f3dabf0f40238901fbde573e4a1c”,

  “version”: “2”

}

6 |人们将NFT收藏项目的热炒与2017年的ICO浪潮进行比较。您的看法如何?

703先生:2017年,数百万人涌入ICO的抢购狂潮,期望他们的投资项目成为下一个以太坊。很少有人幸运地避免了财富的损失,更多的人甚至可能失去他们的钱。我不会轻视其他NFT项目(或在这方面),但当你喜欢街头艺术,一个洗脑专家的作品,你真的买不起班克斯的作品,但你至少应该理解班克斯和普通街头艺术的区别。

2017年最明智的投资不是寻找下一个以太坊,而是认识到Polkadot的潜力,或者在我们的例子中,认识到cryptopunks的潜力。2017年的Polkadt相当于2021年的NFT?我不知道,但我相信如果没有,它将在未来某个时间兑现。

总的来说,我在这方面做得很好。只投资你能省下的钱,投资于能激励你的艺术,你打算保留的作品,或者支持你喜欢的艺术家。这样你就不会失去任何东西。

验证信息-

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “6 | People are comparing the hype for NFT Collectible projects to 2017 ICOs, whats your outlook on this?\n\n2017 saw many millions go into ICOs aiming for the next ETHereum, few of these survived to this day or lost almost all their value. Look, I am not going to talk down other NFT projects (or up for that matter) but when you love street art, and by a Mr Brainwash because you can’t afford a Banksy at least understand the difference between the two. The key in 2017 was not to look for the next ETHereum but realise the potential of Polkadot or in our case CryptoPunks. What is the 2017 Polkadot equivalent of 2021 NFTs? I have no idea but I am sure there will be one out there if it isn’t already. Generally speaking – and I have done well with this approach – invest only what you can spare, do so in art that inspires you and that you intend to keep or to support an artist that you enjoy. This way you can’t loose.”,

“sig”: “0x264b1ba20d75e01eca9ca671c2c7ed4e08c152d54b9b1854f813d987668e2da465b2f89d8a50f1b4281e8ef8bd66bf19ea04ba38959c60d4f4f7314578f4d5ff1b”,

  “version”: “2”

}

7 |许多人称加密朋克为“价值存储”。你在多大程度上同意这一点?

703先生:加密朋克在某种程度上确实是一种存储价值的手段。如果你没有在cryptopunks地板价格范围内的绘画或雕塑,想想为什么没有?你是为了艺术还是为了所谓的疯狂利益?

另外:不要将100%的储蓄投资于加密朋克或NFT。也许买一两张,在墙上贴上镶框的印刷品来吸引一些人的注意。如果你投资加密朋克,当NFT市场停滞时,你可能需要支付租金。你该怎么办?我以前就是那个人,别再说了。如果你能活5-10年,见上文。

验证信息-

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “7 | Punks are called a ‘store of value’ for many, how far do you agree with this?\n\nAnother ETHereum winter not withstanding, CryptoPunks are a store of value in a way, sure. But if you do not own a single painting or sculpture that is in the price range of a floor punk, think about why not? Are you in it for the art or for the supposedly mad gains? Also: do not put 100% of your savings in punks or NFTs. Maybe get one or two and put a framed art print of them on your wall to raise some eyebrows. What if you put money into punks that you might need some day to pay rent when the NFT market is in a lull? I was that person – don’t be that person. If you can hodl 5-10 years then see above. “,

“sig”: “0xb13235d577096ef1bd6bce93bd0416107478000d808a6ef7589cef18b588cb4b1ac64fa4aec88e7bbae5383599a6f77b8ac3f96af3f4188289eeb8fc788c02091c”,

  “version”: “2”

}

8 |您认为目前市场上NFT整体格局中最大的问题是什么?

703先生:我睡了很长时间。让我先醒来。

似乎许多山寨项目实际上并没有给生态系统增加任何有意义的东西,只是让区块链变得拥挤。当然,任何艺术专业的学生都可以创作毕加索风格的作品,但它不能成为毕加索的作品。

如果这篇文章没有启发你,或者你没有看到一个项目不仅表面上不同于所有其他项目,而且从根本上说是独一无二的,那么最好是持有你的ETH——但这就是炒作的本质。当炒作恢复平静,可能会有一些延迟时,可以持续的是触发炒作的内核,即og。

验证信息-

{

  “address”: “0x577eBC5De943e35cdf9ECb5BbE1f7D7CB6c7C647”,

  “msg”: “8 | NFTs in general, whats the biggest issue you can see in the current market?\n\nAgain – still catching up from my extended nap. But it seems that there are plenty of copycat projects out there that really don’t add anything to the ecosystem except clogging up the blockchain. Sure – any art student can create a piece in the style of Picasso, but that does not make it a Picasso. If the piece does not inspire you or you can’t see how one project is not only superficially different from all the other projects but fundamentally unique, then better hodl your ETH. But that is the nature of hype. When the hype dies down and maybe with some delay, what endures is that which caused the hype and that is the OG.”,

“sig”: “0xa9cb5eb0962504a04e34b908f902c1d41520b9a32c9145305cd9a0d8aad2bf1d0d084f8a192bb632287fdf75a82daf20778588a44a33c460c933688d365693891c”,

  “version”: “2”

}

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